A little inbetween


#1

The third installment of my videography, enjoy!


#2

I thought the split screen technique was pretty interesting and you had some cool transitions as well.

It might be my headphones but the mix between your dialogue/monologue and the ambience seems off. Dialogue often being too soft.
I also thought some of the ambience didn’t entirely fit your setting, especially indoors. I think you could improve a lot with more attention to sound.

Some of the shots seemed a little underexposed. I think this might have been difficult since you were only using the available light. It could be nicer to look at if you tried to shape the light a little more.

Hope any of this is useful, good luck on the fourth.


#3

Thanks for the feedback. I do need to dive into sound engineering a bit deeper in the next one. My next investment as a film maker will definitely be a microphone (Any suggestions?).


#4

Perhaps @Kevin_Senzaki can be of assistance here. Please stands by.

I thought the audio quality wasn’t too bad, it just needs a little more attention in the edit. As for microphones; I’ve seen people capture dialogue with an off screen smartphone. If it works it works.
Having a videomic from rode is already a great improvement over your camera’s onboard microphone. And unless you really want to go into sound or want to lone wolf A LOT of projects it might not be worth it to buy a lot of specialised microphones, but rather to rent or to work with someone for audio who has his own gear.

I hope that makes sense, if it doesn’t I’m sure Mr. Senzaki will set me straight.


#5

Thanks for the @, @Jasper_Cloud!

I agree; your production sound is overall pretty decent. I can hear most of the dialogue clearly (the notebook voice-over was a bit soft, but that’s more of a level/mix issue than a recording one). What are you currently doing for your audio; are you using a built-in mic in your camera? Depending on what your current setup and budget is, I might be able to help give you some suggestions!

Editorially, you’re doing some good work with added backgrounds, foley and effects that are working well! My main suggestion would be go to for consistency - it’s great that you’ve added in footsteps in some areas, but check the sync (some of them are noticeably off), and once you have the footsteps, it becomes distracting when you don’t have stuff like cloth movement and whooshes for some of the other bigger movements. Another one that comes to mind is the book; you have a whoosh for it coming up at 0:26, but nothing for it being lowered at 0:28, which feels odd since it’s a full-frame dynamic movement. At 0:40, you have a close-up character standing (right before the book hit), and that also feels like it definitely wants some sound in there; cloth movement and a chair being pushed back, maybe. There’s more throughout, but I think that gets the idea across!

The other main sound editing suggestion I’d have is working with the handles on your audio; some of your audio cuts feel too sharp. In general, basically every audio clip should have cross fades on it, even if they’re one frame or less - this smooths out all your audio transitions, and helps get rid of jarring “jumps” between shots. You get some pops and jumps especially when you cut quickly like at 0:25. In that section, I’d also suggest extending the end of the chair drag audio beyond the picture cut, so we get a better sense of it acting like a “whoosh.” The other specific moment that comes to mind immediately is the treasure chest slam at 2:21; that metal hit and ring definitely wants to carry over the black!

Let me know if you have any questions on the above, or anything else!


#6

Wow! It’s so nice of you to offer your advice to us youngsters. My editing brain has yet to pick up on those little details yet, but as you pointed them out I got excited thinking about things to do in the next film (the layers!). As for my current set up, I record all the foley with the in-built camera mic on a quiet night and then edit out the background noise in audacity. Then I have a snowball mic for dialogue and other miscellaneous noises. Between a lavalier mic and a boom mic, which one would I be better off getting (budget <100$)?

Thanks a bunch!


#7

I’m not necessarily sure a microphone would be the best investment at that price range, specifically because you’re already getting pretty good results with your current setup and techniques, and you’ll be limited purchase-wise to mid-tier consumer / pro-sumer products that you might “outgrow” pretty quickly.

However, if audio is your biggest concern at the moment, I think a camera-mounted attachment like the Rode VideoMic would be the best solution, which is compatible with most small cameras. It should give you increased directionality and clarity over the built-in on your camera or the snowball, without adding additional equipment to handle (I’ve personally not used the snowball though, so I would strongly recommend you do a little YouTube review research before making any purchases - just see if it really seems like it’s worth it!).

You’re already getting good results with your foley process, and I don’t think any lav or shotgun mic in the $100 or less range would do much to improve your quality - you have a good process going already, and that’s the important part (great job denoising in Audacity btw!).

Let me know if you have any additional or follow-up questions!